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		<title>By: Barbara Gibson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barbara Gibson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 09:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoa!  That is BEAUTIFUL sojourner! You stop me in my tracks!</description>
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		<title>By: sojourner</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 03:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beautiful Paulette!  I LOVE the point the shaman makes re: the Earth and all it&#039;s beauty.  As city dwellers I think one can easily lose site of the wonder and awe of nature.  One of my favorite lines was spoken by Jesse during one of his teachings.  &quot;Why create Eden, call it all good, then banish us from the garden in shame and despair?  It just doesn&#039;t add up from the God I know as the lover of my soul.  As a parent I would never dream of banishing my children from my presence, breaking all ties and connection, and then create a system of meritocracy whereby they fail over and over again.  It&#039;s just so ludicrous...like some type of mad abusive mind trip.  It sounds like the workings of lower level consciousness man who dreamed up the concept then pinned the crime on God.  Thank goodness this is far from the truth of a God who loves us so deeply, that he put himself within all creation, that we might recognize ourselves in the reflection of our brother, our sister, and the very one we come face to face with in the mirror.

In the spirit of discussion of our &quot;original&quot; beginnings I leave you with these final thoughts by Charlotte Mason, an absolute gifted being in the rearing and education of children.  The book is Charlotte Mason Companion by Karen Andreola.  &quot;Even though most teachers lay down their lives for their charges with amazing devotion, we have been so long taught to regard children as products of education and environment, that we fail to realize that from the first they are PERSONS...  We either reverence or despise children; and while we regard them as incomplete and undeveloped beings who will one day arrive at the completeness of man, rather than as weak and ignorant persons, whose ignorance we must inform and whose weakness we must support, but whose potentialities are as great as our own, we cannot do otherwise than despise children, however kindly and even tenderly we commit the offense.&quot;

&quot;As soon as he gets word with which to communicate with us, a child lets us know that he thinks with surprising clearness and directness, that he sees with a closeness of observation that we have long lost, that he enjoys and that he sorrows with an intensity we have ceased to experience, that he LOVES with an abandon and a confidence which, alas, we do not share, that he IMAGINES with a fecundity no artist among us can approach, that he acquires intellectual knowledge and mechanical skill at a rate so amazing, that, could the infant&#039;s rate of progress be kept up to manhood, he would surely appropriate the whole field of knowledge in a single lifetime!&quot;  Charlotte Mason considered a child as he was, viewing him neither as Wordsworth did, as in the heights above, nor as the evolutionist does, in the depths below.  She said, &quot;A person is a mystery, that is, we cannot explain him or account for him, but must accept him as he is.&quot;

Folks, we are fearfully and wonderfully made and our potential is unlimited!  Indeed, the kingdom belongs to those fresh from heaven (&quot;let the children come unto me...&quot;) and blessed are those who are coming into this awakening with little ones in their midst.  May we &quot;connect&quot; back to our &quot;original&quot; self, as Charlotte so aptly stated, to &quot;the mystery of our being.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beautiful Paulette!  I LOVE the point the shaman makes re: the Earth and all it&#8217;s beauty.  As city dwellers I think one can easily lose site of the wonder and awe of nature.  One of my favorite lines was spoken by Jesse during one of his teachings.  &#8220;Why create Eden, call it all good, then banish us from the garden in shame and despair?  It just doesn&#8217;t add up from the God I know as the lover of my soul.  As a parent I would never dream of banishing my children from my presence, breaking all ties and connection, and then create a system of meritocracy whereby they fail over and over again.  It&#8217;s just so ludicrous&#8230;like some type of mad abusive mind trip.  It sounds like the workings of lower level consciousness man who dreamed up the concept then pinned the crime on God.  Thank goodness this is far from the truth of a God who loves us so deeply, that he put himself within all creation, that we might recognize ourselves in the reflection of our brother, our sister, and the very one we come face to face with in the mirror.</p>
<p>In the spirit of discussion of our &#8220;original&#8221; beginnings I leave you with these final thoughts by Charlotte Mason, an absolute gifted being in the rearing and education of children.  The book is Charlotte Mason Companion by Karen Andreola.  &#8220;Even though most teachers lay down their lives for their charges with amazing devotion, we have been so long taught to regard children as products of education and environment, that we fail to realize that from the first they are PERSONS&#8230;  We either reverence or despise children; and while we regard them as incomplete and undeveloped beings who will one day arrive at the completeness of man, rather than as weak and ignorant persons, whose ignorance we must inform and whose weakness we must support, but whose potentialities are as great as our own, we cannot do otherwise than despise children, however kindly and even tenderly we commit the offense.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;As soon as he gets word with which to communicate with us, a child lets us know that he thinks with surprising clearness and directness, that he sees with a closeness of observation that we have long lost, that he enjoys and that he sorrows with an intensity we have ceased to experience, that he LOVES with an abandon and a confidence which, alas, we do not share, that he IMAGINES with a fecundity no artist among us can approach, that he acquires intellectual knowledge and mechanical skill at a rate so amazing, that, could the infant&#8217;s rate of progress be kept up to manhood, he would surely appropriate the whole field of knowledge in a single lifetime!&#8221;  Charlotte Mason considered a child as he was, viewing him neither as Wordsworth did, as in the heights above, nor as the evolutionist does, in the depths below.  She said, &#8220;A person is a mystery, that is, we cannot explain him or account for him, but must accept him as he is.&#8221;</p>
<p>Folks, we are fearfully and wonderfully made and our potential is unlimited!  Indeed, the kingdom belongs to those fresh from heaven (&#8220;let the children come unto me&#8230;&#8221;) and blessed are those who are coming into this awakening with little ones in their midst.  May we &#8220;connect&#8221; back to our &#8220;original&#8221; self, as Charlotte so aptly stated, to &#8220;the mystery of our being.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Paulette Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paulette Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 21:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hers&#039;s a question for you.  What if the whole Jews being the chosen people was another lie to give them power and prestige.  Accoring to the Kabbalist being the children of Isreal has more to do with the placement of your heart than your national origin.  But I am just thinking out loud.
The aboriginese people and indians such as the Hope, Inca, and Mayan never bought the kicked out the garden story.  Villoldo said that his shamon teacher lived high up in the monutains and you could place all of his personal belongings into a suitcase.  When he asked him how he could live in such poverty.  He took him out and pointed to all of the mountains, forest, and natural surroundings and answered &quot;How can I be living in poverty when I have all of this.&quot;  They new that by staying in the garden, Earth would always take care of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hers&#8217;s a question for you.  What if the whole Jews being the chosen people was another lie to give them power and prestige.  Accoring to the Kabbalist being the children of Isreal has more to do with the placement of your heart than your national origin.  But I am just thinking out loud.<br />
The aboriginese people and indians such as the Hope, Inca, and Mayan never bought the kicked out the garden story.  Villoldo said that his shamon teacher lived high up in the monutains and you could place all of his personal belongings into a suitcase.  When he asked him how he could live in such poverty.  He took him out and pointed to all of the mountains, forest, and natural surroundings and answered &#8220;How can I be living in poverty when I have all of this.&#8221;  They new that by staying in the garden, Earth would always take care of them.</p>
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		<title>By: JaneB</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 17:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beginning when I was about 10, I spend alot of  time pondering the Adam and Eve story.  In college, I mentioned in a group one time that I had been thinking the problem was not in eating what was forbidden so much as believing the lie that God was withholding part of his goodness from them; the fall began with that pollution settling in their mind.   I dont recall any reaction, possibly no one even paid attention, but periodically it resurrects in my thinking pretty strong.  My thought was that &quot;fear&quot; gripped them.  In order to &quot;fix&quot; the fear, she took a bite. Just a story, but what dominoe effect!   

This got me wondering about perfectly copying every &quot;jot and tittle&quot;.   Being very close friends to some orthodox jews for many years I learned alot about traditions.   Did their &quot;traditions&quot; stem from the same lie?  Quite possibly, the original texts (beginning with the canon) were written erroneously to begin with, or perhaps later ones were altered even before Constantine.    With the development of Judaism, would not the leaders of that time think it to their advantage also to represent the original stories to suit their ability to rule?  Distort the truth and keep everything under control.   If that&#039;s what happened, &quot;nothing new under the sun&quot;, makes even more sense.   

Once the thought was taken away, of who we really are, the downard spiral (as Ernie puts it so often) takes over, maybe even before we are born.   

Parting Words:  stingy - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary  &quot;stingy&quot;
Yep, those adjectives only apply to the God of Wrath.  No wonder it frightened me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beginning when I was about 10, I spend alot of  time pondering the Adam and Eve story.  In college, I mentioned in a group one time that I had been thinking the problem was not in eating what was forbidden so much as believing the lie that God was withholding part of his goodness from them; the fall began with that pollution settling in their mind.   I dont recall any reaction, possibly no one even paid attention, but periodically it resurrects in my thinking pretty strong.  My thought was that &#8220;fear&#8221; gripped them.  In order to &#8220;fix&#8221; the fear, she took a bite. Just a story, but what dominoe effect!   </p>
<p>This got me wondering about perfectly copying every &#8220;jot and tittle&#8221;.   Being very close friends to some orthodox jews for many years I learned alot about traditions.   Did their &#8220;traditions&#8221; stem from the same lie?  Quite possibly, the original texts (beginning with the canon) were written erroneously to begin with, or perhaps later ones were altered even before Constantine.    With the development of Judaism, would not the leaders of that time think it to their advantage also to represent the original stories to suit their ability to rule?  Distort the truth and keep everything under control.   If that&#8217;s what happened, &#8220;nothing new under the sun&#8221;, makes even more sense.   </p>
<p>Once the thought was taken away, of who we really are, the downard spiral (as Ernie puts it so often) takes over, maybe even before we are born.   </p>
<p>Parting Words:  stingy &#8211; Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary  &#8220;stingy&#8221;<br />
Yep, those adjectives only apply to the God of Wrath.  No wonder it frightened me.</p>
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